Subject: [Tweeters] Vandalism at Birding Sites
Date: Sun Jan 16 09:25:55 PST 2022
From: Kevin Lucas - vikingcove at gmail.com

Thank you Laurie. I just said to my wife yesterday that I thought that
should be allowed, and planned to check into it on Tuesday. I'm hoping that
it also applies to my Washington vehicle registration and insurance proof
when I'm out of state.

A concern with sharing that information from my phone raises is that I
wouldn't want a law officer to be able to use their getting my electronic
registration from my phone as a free pass for them to go adventuring though
my phone. I'm careful. I don't share friend's email address, physical
address, etcetera with others without my friends' explicit permission. Even
if law enforcement practices were all well intentioned, data breaches would
negate those intentions.

I would hold the phone and show the display to an officer who requested it,
not handing the phone over. I think that fully complies with the letter and
intention of that statute:
"Acceptable electronic formats include the display of electronic images on
a cellular phone or any other type of portable electronic device."
I think I'll keep an image of the statue in my phone with the images of the
registration and insurance.

Carrying the registration & insurance papers with me when I'm not in the
car is another option. I already carry my insurance card in my wallet with
my driver license.

Thank you again,
Kevin Lucas
https://www.aba.org/aba-code-of-birding-ethics/
Yakima County, WA

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On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 8:43 AM Laurie Beden <laurie.c.beden at gmail.com>
wrote:


> I recently found out you can keep an electronic copy of your signed

> registration (and insurance certificate) on your cell in lieu of hard copy

> in your car.

>

> link to Washington state law

>

> https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.16a.180

>

>

> On Jan 15, 2022, at 08:36, Kevin Lucas <vikingcove at gmail.com> wrote:

>

> From Yakima Sheriff Department -- car burglars work in teams, using

> address from vehicle registration to tell accomplice(s) that car owner is

> currently away from address on registration, leaving home/apartment more

> vunerable to burglary.

>

> Kevin Lucas

> at home in

> Yakima County, WA

>

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>

> On January 15, 2022 6:52:14 AM dgrainger at birdsbydave.com wrote:

>

>

> What the perps do is take those documents to one of those Pay Day loan

>

> places and pledge your car as collateral. There is usually not very much

>

> money involved so the Pay Day loan place doesn't even look at the

>

> vehicle, just the paper. Remember, in WA, unlike most states, we are

>

> required to sign and date those documents, and are required to put them

>

> in the car. That makes it possible for a thief to steal the whole car

>

> and transfer it to a private party buyer.

>

>

> I think WA is foolish to do it this way

>

>

>

> On 2022-01-14 20:19, dan&erika wrote:

>

> Jon--Be sure to check if they took your car registration. I am not

>

> exactly sure what they do with it. Also, they may steal garage door

>

> openers if they know your address from the registration.

>

>

> dan

>

>

> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 9:54 AM Jon. Anderson and Marty Chaney

>

> <festuca at comcast.net> wrote:

>

>

> Just a note that a group of Birders' vehicles were vandalized and

>

> prowled in broad daylight at the parking lot of the North Mason

>

> Schools' Mary E. Theler Early Learning Center in Belfair. This is

>

> the main access for the Theler Wetlands nature trails, and the

>

> bi-monthly bird walks hosted by John Riegsecker and Faye McAdams

>

> Hands.

>

>

> Apparently, these Vandals (a terrible adjective for these

>

> low-lives: the epithet derives from the nice peoples of antiquity .

>

> . . just because they sacked Rome in 455 A.D.) were after spare

>

> change and possibly personal identification papers - insurance and

>

> registration, etc. - rather than stuff they could pawn. A few

>

> people had optics and other items in the vehicle that were not

>

> taken.

>

>

> My passenger side window was broken out and the glove boxes rifled

>

> through. I keep no money, not even change, in my car, so didn't

>

> suffer any theft. But the perpetrators caused thousands of

>

> dollars' worth of damage to 9 vehicles for likely less than $10

>

> worth of "take".

>

>

> In my area, the parking lots at Nisqually Refuge get hit

>

> periodically as well.

>

>

> Just a reminder for us to not leave valuables in our cars while

>

> birding, and to ensure our car alarm is activated. Or, as one of

>

> our company did - leave a large dog in the front seat!

>

>

> Safe Birding, all -

>

>

> Jon. Anderson

>

>

> OlyWA

>

>

> festuca at comcast dot net

>

>

> https://jonsperegrination.blogspot.com/

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