Subject: [Tweeters] Unknown Hawk
Date: Sat Mar 12 16:01:15 PST 2022
From: Steve Hampton - stevechampton at gmail.com

Interesting photograph. I lean toward Red-tailed Hawk based on:

- yellow iris
- the size of the eye relative to the bill and head
- number of tail bars (at least 7)
- the tail bars are of mostly uniform width (on Red-sh the distal bars
seem to get thicker)



On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 1:53 PM Jeff Gilligan <jeffgilligan10 at gmail.com>
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> I think we can eliminate the yellow sere or lack of it, as being an

> important ID factor. For example, see this immature Red-tailed Hawk has an

> obvious yellow sere:

> https://www.audubon.org/magazine/fall-2016/six-quick-questions-help-you-identify-red-tailed

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> A qyuick answer, without a leading question, from a very good Santa

> Barbara birder was that it is an immature Red-shouldered. He wasn't

> committed to that as positive though. He has Red-sholudered Hawks that

> nest behind hs house.

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> Jeff Gilligan

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> On Mar 12, 2022, at 9:24 AM, J. Acker <Owler at sounddsl.com> wrote:

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> I'm not so sure about imm Red-Shouldered. This bird appears to be a

> buteo, and a chunky one. Red shoulders are more slender / less bulky

> looking. Also the number and width of the tail bars is not matching up

> with the photos I have viewed online of red-shouldered. Additionally, the

> cere should be yellowish in a red-shouldered and this photo has an all dark

> bill and cere.

> But I am confused as to what this bird is also.

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> J. Acker

> Owler at sounddsl.com

> Bainbridge Island, WA

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​Steve Hampton​
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