P.S. And I don't believe I've ever had fledgling Scrubs come to these
feeders. The Steller's Jays, on the other hand, bring their fledglings
immediately to the feeders, telling them *You're on your own now, kids.*
On Fri, Oct 31, 2025 at 10:33 AM Robert O'Brien <
baro at pdx.edu> wrote:
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Here 20mi SE of Portland in a rural area ,the Scrub/Stellar (sic)
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Situation is exactly the same as Steve Loitz states. Exactly, and has been
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this way for 50 years. We get Scrub Jays coming up to us from the
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residential areas along the Clackamas River only in the summer when the
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babies are demanding a lot of food and we have available feeders in a
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coniferous/mixed habitat.. Always overrun by Steller's Jays.
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Bob OBrien Portland
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On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 8:01 AM Steve Loitz via Tweeters <
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tweeters at u.washington.edu> wrote:
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Ann, I have not seen any evidence that CASJs are pushing out STJAs in and
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around Ellensburg. There is little overlap of their respective habitats.
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Our CASJs are mostly in riparian zones and residential landscaped areas.
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STJAs tend to stick to areas with confiers. We have seen them on the same
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property, but no obvious antagonism.
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OTOH, CASJs may well be competition with Black-billed Magpies in some
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places in our areas. I have some bickering between those two species.
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YMMV on the Wet Side of the Cascades, of course.
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Steve Loitz
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Ellensburg
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On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 9:03 PM Ann Kramer <lens4birds at gmail.com> wrote:
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I will be sad if the Steller's Jay's are pushed out of our area. We are
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heavily forested with NGPA forests around, and I've only seen one Scrub Jay
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over the years. The Stellar's come to the suet as a family unit, and they
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are the only brave enough to harass a Cooper's or Sharp-Shinned Hawk far
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from the busy feeders we have. They are amazing to watch, as they work as
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a team to chase the Hawks and then quickly fly away, squawking, as it turns
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on them. Such a lot of moxie!!!
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>>>
Ann
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On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 12:13 PM Steve Loitz via Tweeters <
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tweeters at u.washington.edu> wrote:
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CASJs are now in and around Ellensburg. A few years ago, it was rare to
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see one north of Yakima.
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Steve Loitz
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Ellensburg WA
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On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 11:45 AM Chuq Von Rospach via Tweeters <
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tweeters at u.washington.edu> wrote:
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On Oct 27, 2025 at 11:36:37, Stephen Elston via Tweeters <
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tweeters at u.washington.edu> wrote:
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>>>>>>
I am regularly seeing California Scrub Jay in the Greenwood
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neighborhood of Seattle. The Stelars Jays still outnumber them
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significantly.
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For better and worse, Scrub Jays are quite good at expanding
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territory. Back when I was living in California there was an area I was
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monitoring regularly over a number of years, and over about a decade, we
>>>>>
saw it go from being primarily a Stellar's Jay area to Scrub Jay territory
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with only a couple of isolated Stellar's families in the deeper wooded
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areas. I expect by now the Stellar's have been completely pushed out. Scrub
>>>>>
Jays keep more of a family unit going than Stellar's, which I think gives
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them an advantage when competing for territory (much like Northern
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Mockingbirds do). The Scrub Jays adapt much more easily to suburban and
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urban environments.
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Chuq
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